want to know do you have the temperament to be president, which means that there's a little bit of a sense of perspective. it's not all about me, it can't be. it needs to be all about the issues that american people are facing and i just wish we could have talked about more of them, like the infrastructure of the country, like social security and medicare. judge, there were so many things that never ever came up in three hours and 20 minutes, i find that distressing. >> did you think there was an agenda by cnn to try to get you guys and the woman on the stage, too, to go after each other just so you could trash each other and basically bring everyone down on that stage? was there an agenda? >> well, it seemed to be. in fact, they said before the debate their goal was not so much just to ask questions around the horn but to get the candidates to engage with each other. if you want to engage each other on substantive issues, but it was more about, hey, mr. trump, carly said something about you, would you like to react?